tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post8980543263732901078..comments2024-03-29T00:09:28.302+00:00Comments on 99% is ....... The Barnet Eye: Shake, Rattle and Roll - The Councillor Mike Freer ShowRog Thttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08139705078907584931noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-11247813634948132042008-11-07T22:42:00.000+00:002008-11-07T22:42:00.000+00:00"Julie",You really should read Oliver Twist. The k..."Julie",<BR/><BR/>You really should read Oliver Twist. The kid being abused by those with power and authority. You might learn something.<BR/><BR/>People can read your post and they can read my post and they can judge for themselves. You may not have meant to sound arrogant and condescending towards the electorate of Barnet but that's how it sounded to me. Plenty of folk in Mill Hill read my blogs and they tell me face to face when I get it wrong and when I get it right. We'll see.....Rog Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139705078907584931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-89498488389788971992008-11-07T19:23:00.000+00:002008-11-07T19:23:00.000+00:00I didn't say people will vote Tory because everyon...I didn't say people will vote Tory because everyone's a mug, there you go twisting things again, Oliver.<BR/><BR/>It's because they see themselves as generally Tory leaning, happy that the council is getting the basics right (see my last post), and not really bothered about the iceland deposits.....<BR/><BR/>They can't be complacent but they won't exactly have to break their backs.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333768460851591942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-62122651710284881762008-11-07T03:04:00.000+00:002008-11-07T03:04:00.000+00:00JulieThe Conservatives should retain power in 2010...Julie<BR/><BR/>The Conservatives should retain power in 2010, but only provided that they do not get complacent.<BR/><BR/>You only need to look at what happened in Mill Hill in 1994. That used to be a safe Tory area so they ignored it, sending everyone to work elsewhere, and the Lib Dems marched in. It took 12 years to win back just one of the three seats.Don't Call Me Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602899129846028170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-53061942511160240622008-11-07T00:18:00.000+00:002008-11-07T00:18:00.000+00:00"Julie",I guess you are a Tory. As a trotskyite La..."Julie",<BR/><BR/>I guess you are a Tory. As a trotskyite Labourista, I sincerely hope the Tories base their policy on your strategy that everyone is a mug and they'll vote for you anyway, no matter how rubbish you've been.<BR/><BR/>If I were you I wouldn't even bother to try and get you vote out, because you just know you'll win.<BR/><BR/>I love comments like yours. They make all of my Conservative mates rather twitchy (just like your beloved alter ego).<BR/><BR/>I can go to bed happy now !Rog Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139705078907584931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-18997128168306255102008-11-06T21:00:00.000+00:002008-11-06T21:00:00.000+00:00A lot of 'ifs' there....Sounds like you're hoping ...A lot of 'ifs' there....<BR/><BR/>Sounds like you're hoping for the situation you describe! Hehe!<BR/><BR/>People's bins will still be collected, roads will still be resurfaced, schools will still be open, street lights will still work, 99% of Barnet's residents will still get from the council what they expect and so it will not be a decisive issue at the election, which will be overshadowed by a general election anyway. <BR/><BR/>The vast majority of Barnet residents don't know or don't care what the name of the cllr is who runs the council and what the icelandic investment situation is all about. This may be a pity but its true. The majority will just come out and vote Conservative.....like good suburbanites.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306990810822762551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-5710899475519522302008-11-06T20:39:00.000+00:002008-11-06T20:39:00.000+00:00JulieIf the council doesn’t get OUR money back, an...Julie<BR/><BR/>If the council doesn’t get OUR money back, and if services have to be cut as a result or council tax goes up, then it most certainly will be an election issue. Residents might not be screaming at the gates of the Town Hall today, but you can be sure that if the money is lost for good, the public mood will change.<BR/><BR/>When council tax went up 24% in 2003, the Conservatives blamed Labour - with some justification. But it won’t work this time around. Mike Freer can blame the officials if he likes, but the public won’t buy it. Politicians cannot expect take all the credit when things go right but absolve themselves of all responsibility when they go pear shaped. <BR/><BR/>Even if this is all the fault of officials, the public expect their elected politicians to be looking out for their interests and, in this regard, the council has failed miserably.Don't Call Me Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602899129846028170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-6791569943996238462008-11-06T20:17:00.000+00:002008-11-06T20:17:00.000+00:00I was at the Council meeting and the point Cllr Th...I was at the Council meeting and the point Cllr Thomas was making was that the Lib Dems were trying to stir up 'resident anger' when it hardly exists - no one can deny this is what the BNP do but on a different issue.<BR/><BR/>He also wasn't trying to point out that other Lib Dem councils had lost money but that other Lib Dem councils so no point in wasting money having an emergency meeting.<BR/><BR/>Both reasonable points.<BR/><BR/>As for this whole iceland deposit issue, any mild-mannered objective person would agree this is simply bad luck and this won't be an issue at the next council election anyway.<BR/><BR/>The negative comments of Roger, David et al are to be expected.<BR/><BR/>The Tories will retain control in Barnet in 2010 with an even bigger majority and continue to rule as those with axes to grind and keyboards to tap gawp with frustated disagreement!Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306990810822762551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-25988785273732681442008-11-05T23:09:00.000+00:002008-11-05T23:09:00.000+00:00"Amanda",what goings on were these.Please enlighte..."Amanda",<BR/><BR/>what goings on were these.Please enlighten me as I've got no idea what you are referring to.<BR/><BR/>As a normal person who isn't interested in politics, what was your take on Councillor Freer's rather bizarre performance? I'd be interested to hear a totally unbiased view of the proceedings from someone with no political preference.Rog Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139705078907584931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-45231423489020396122008-11-05T09:50:00.000+00:002008-11-05T09:50:00.000+00:00So what if the labour Party were condemned for 10 ...So what if the labour Party were condemned for 10 years of bad administration, it doesnt hurt to point the finger of blame and remind some people they are not perfect.<BR/><BR/>I am also pretty sure there are plenty of people briefing the Lib Dums about the goings on in the Conservative Group, now that is childish.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07507495944835063482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9215006984353817373.post-28765758630518359502008-11-05T03:47:00.000+00:002008-11-05T03:47:00.000+00:00Rog, what I found totally unacceptable was the tot...Rog, what I found totally unacceptable was the total lack of contrition from Mike Freer with not even a hint of an apology. Nobody is suggesting that the council deliberately lost the money, but they could at least apologise for what has happened.<BR/><BR/>Instead we had this unedifying spectacle of Cllr Freer blaming everyone else but himself. Whatever happened to the concept of leaders leading and accepting responsibility for the actions of the troops?<BR/><BR/>It seems that some councillors are more interested in political point scoring than telling the taxpayers what will happen if the money is lost for good. Cllr Daniel Thomas tried to be clever in pointing out that some LibDem councils have also lost money in Iceland. So what? The debate last night was about Barnet and if it hadn’t been for the LibDems there wouldn’t have been a debate at all. I am ashamed that not one Conservative councillor had the guts to speak out on this important subject. It just goes to prove that the whipping system is damaging democratic accountability.<BR/><BR/>I am willing to bet that the Conservatives sitting on LibDem controlled councils which lost money have spoken out quite vociferously on this matter.<BR/><BR/>What was utterly shameful was when Cllr Thomas likened the LibDems to the BNP. I am not a LibDem supporter, and if they lost a few seats to the Tories at the General Election I would be quite happy. But I would never put them in the same category as the BNP. Cllr Thomas should grow up, stop playing his master’s poodle and apologise for his tasteless remark.Don't Call Me Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602899129846028170noreply@blogger.com